Monday, 11 June 2018

VINTAGE TOY CAR PEN HOLDERS ANYONE?


I used to see old pen holders and desk tidies with die-cast cars all the time at car boot sales.

I don't car boot that much now.

Should I have got some?

Are they collectable?

The cars always seemed to be old timers.
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  1. Anonymous6/11/2018 12:08 am

    And of course the ideal pen to go with it would be the one with a little car inside the end that would slide down as you wrote. A close second would be the strip tease pen too!- Mark J

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    1. WOODSY6/11/2018 5:08 pm

      Aha, yes, superb suggestions for writing equipment there MJ! I wonder if anyone has any of those sliding picture pens still?

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  2. Terranova476/12/2018 12:17 am

    i just looked in the kitchen's miscellaneous pen holders expecting to find our sliding picture pen from San Francisco with a street car (Tram). That wasn't there, instead we have three others.

    AMSTERDAM with a tour boat on a canal.

    THE NATIONAL BASEBALL HALL OF FAME Cooperstown, NY with a player 'sliding home'

    MONTICELLO, HOME OF THOMAS JEFFERSON with a coach and horses.

    How we have them is a mystery, never saw them before?

    Blurred photos to follow.

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    1. WOODSY6/12/2018 4:02 pm

      ha ha, you have a secret pen collector in the house Terran! All interesting places as well!

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  3. Anonymous6/12/2018 12:57 am

    Hi Woodsy. These were giftware items produced by Matchbox in the late 60s/early 70s. They used their existing Models of Yesteryear, painted them gold or silver and attached them to penholders, ashtrays, etc. I assume these were targeted at older gents as decorations for their desks. I have one in my collection (a Rolls Royce mounted on a cigarette case) and will send through a photo.

    CLearly these weren't aimed at youngsters as the connection between the models and smoking would not be encouraged, even in those far-off days...

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    1. WOODSY6/12/2018 4:06 pm

      Yes, I see what you mean. They must have been marginal gifts aimed at adults. A bit like toilet roll Sindy dolls. Spin-offs for a new market. I assume there are no cars on these ornaments that didn't also appear as Matchbox toys? Thanks for the picture. Emailing me is the only way to get stuff shown on Moonbase C. I'll post it asap.

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  4. Arto6/12/2018 1:52 pm

    These are interesting byproducts of the Matchbox range, and it is a surprise how they seem to have relatively low collectability. I have a couple of bookends that I find nice in their old-fashioned way. A few other items spotted have had defects and therefore left unbought.

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    1. Anonymous6/12/2018 2:07 pm

      I expect their low collectability compared to other Matchbox toys is because they were marketed as "collectibles" or office trinkets to adults, so they don't strike a chord with those of us who were children at the time. Also, they weren't played with in sandpits or backyards, so have a higher survivability rate than the Matchbox "toys", and therefore are less valuable now as collectibles (although any with their original boxes would still be attractive now). Cheers, Tony

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    2. WOODSY6/12/2018 4:10 pm

      It id interesting how Matchbox saw a niche like this though. There aren't many toys that morphed into adult ornaments. Action Man didn't I don't think unless he's a cigarette dispenser somewhere! I have had a few toyish cig dispensers go through my hands over the years oddly enough. One was a donkey and cigs were dispensed out of its rear end! I suppose the most apt was a plastic coffin box which released a fag when it was pushed.

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    3. Arto6/12/2018 5:32 pm

      A good point there, Tony, although one could also argue that they would nicely complete any Yesteryear collection. Maybe the office environment connotation is somewhat off-putting too.

      These old automobile models seem to be quite tricky in terms of survivability, more often than not little details missing here and there. Never come across a boxed one! I wonder how they were packaged (will check shortly).

      And Woodsy, those coffin box cigarette dispensers sound like a bullseye gadget for our ne-pas-fumer times!

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    4. Arto6/12/2018 7:13 pm

      These seem to have been sold under "Souvenirs by Matchbox" title. Found this website

      http://www.matchboxmemories.com/Yesteryear%20Giftware/Other%20Giftware/other_giftware_items.htm

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    5. Anonymous6/13/2018 12:30 am

      There are a couple of boxed examples from a Vectis auction at https://www.vectis.co.uk/matchbox-models-of-yesteryear-giftware-series_612265. The price estimate of GBP50-60 for 2 boxed and one unboxed item indicates that the overall values for these weren't very high. Shame as they are nice little items. Cheers, Tony

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    6. WOODSY6/13/2018 5:24 pm

      I had a look at Vectis Tone. I was amazed by those boxed examples. I had no idea that Matchbox did so many of these gifts: buses, cars, footballers and a sort of heraldic crest. Superb!

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    7. WOODSY6/13/2018 5:27 pm

      Wow Arto! That's a wonderful collectors site of Matchbox giftware! Soooo many! I love the coasters. It must be a dream for the serious Yesteryear collector to see all this on one site. We had car coasters when I was a kid but not Yesteryear photographs. How cool they are! Maybe you'll find some at a fleamarket in Helsinki!

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  5. Terranova476/13/2018 11:36 pm

    Jack Odell one of the founders of Lesney, he was the tool and die maker and was the force behind Models of Yesteryear the range which these large vintage car models were from. The usual matchbox Series 1-75 was for kids, the models being contemporary with when they were issued. This was the bread and butter of the company profits. The 'Old Crocks' early 20th century vehicles were really for nostalgic older people who remembered them from their youth, as did Odell, and the Smith brothers, Leslie and Rodney.

    This love of older vehicles can be seen in the Lledo (ODELL spelt backwards) range created by Odell after Lesney was sold to Mattel. No contemporary vehicles at all. The people who liked vintage cars were old and smoked so this was a good way to use dies that were wearing out, coated in gold or silver no one would notice.

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    1. WOODSY6/15/2018 8:16 am

      Fascinating Terran. I love that, Odell backwards is LLedo! Great stuff! Always wondered what it was!

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    2. Terranova476/16/2018 1:21 am

      The Smith brothers took the LES from Leslie and NEY from Rodney for the company name. That must be what inspired Odell into Lledo

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